Meera's Sword=VS Dark Sister?

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Lyannabanna
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:19 am

Meera had no sword when Team Bran entered the Three-Eyed Raven's cave—only the dragon-glass enhanced weapons that Sam gave her at the Nightfort. When the WWs broke in, she grabbed one near the entrance.

We see it clearly at Benjen's campsite, and she still has it when they arrive at Castle Black:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2ma8 ... zU5ZE8wc1U
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2ma8 ... 3dYeHVsZTA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2ma8 ... jVCRnJYZTg
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2ma8 ... zlCcW9rV3c

During the cave battle, she killed a WW with her Sam-enhanced dragonglass spear and may not have used the sword.

In the books,* the 3ER was Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers/Targaryen. He was the last-known wielder of the VS sword Dark Sister, which originally belonged to one of Aegon I's sister-wives and was believed lost during the Blackfyre Rebellion.

As Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, he disappeared beyond The Wall and joined the CotF. The Children did not use steel weapons, and it is highly unlikely that anyone else visited the cave before Team Bran.

So Meera's sword MUST be Dark Sister. Otherwise, why would D&D film this plot thread? To me, this seems a *perfect* setup foreshadowing that Meera and Howland Reed will return in S8. Besides Meera'/Dark Sister's new-found powers, HR may have some v-e-r-y interesting information about what really happened at the Tower of Joy.

*I have not read the books, so please correct me if I'm wrong!

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evenwind
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:03 pm

Has there been any hint of a casting call for someone who could be HR?

Stormborn
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:16 am

evenwind wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:03 pm
Has there been any hint of a casting call for someone who could be HR?
I don't think so and I'm not expecting it as it's a book reader obsession. All GoT needs to do is have Bran reveal something to Jon like he did with Sansa to dispel any doubts.

Lyannabanna
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:14 am

I am not a book reader, so I'm not annoyed/confused by differences between GRRM's text and the HBO adaptation.

When I saw Meera grab the 3ER's sword in S6, the scene captured my attention. So I digetsed analyses written by knowledgeable book readers. They *100% convinced* me that it is Dark Sister, the VS sword originally forged for Visenya Targaryen, the sister-wife of Aegon the Conqueror.

Yes, recent reports indicate that Ellie Kendrick may not be available during the published S8 filming schedule. No, there is no known casting call for an actor whose description resembles Howland Reed. It is certainly true that R+L=J needs no further evidence from Howland Reed.

Even so, I predict that one or both known survivors of House Reed (who was HR's wife/mother of Meera and Jojen?) will contribute and/or wield this precious VS anti-WW weapon to serve an important, possibly pivotal, purpose in the War for the Dawn.

Duh… Why ELSE would D&D commit valuable screen time to verifying this conclusion?

Stormborn
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:36 pm

D&D haven't confirmed anything about Dark Sister. If it had been confirmed it would've been referred to by its name. Until such time as that happens then a sword is just a sword in GoT.

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Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:34 pm

Lyannabanna wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:19 am
Meera had no sword when Team Bran entered the Three-Eyed Raven's cave—only the dragon-glass enhanced weapons that Sam gave her at the Nightfort. When the WWs broke in, she grabbed one near the entrance.

We see it clearly at Benjen's campsite, and she still has it when they arrive at Castle Black:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2ma8 ... zU5ZE8wc1U
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2ma8 ... 3dYeHVsZTA
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2ma8 ... jVCRnJYZTg
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2ma8 ... zlCcW9rV3c

During the cave battle, she killed a WW with her Sam-enhanced dragonglass spear and may not have used the sword.

In the books,* the 3ER was Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers/Targaryen. He was the last-known wielder of the VS sword Dark Sister, which originally belonged to one of Aegon I's sister-wives and was believed lost during the Blackfyre Rebellion.

As Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, he disappeared beyond The Wall and joined the CotF. The Children did not use steel weapons, and it is highly unlikely that anyone else visited the cave before Team Bran.

So Meera's sword MUST be Dark Sister. Otherwise, why would D&D film this plot thread? To me, this seems a *perfect* setup foreshadowing that Meera and Howland Reed will return in S8. Besides Meera'/Dark Sister's new-found powers, HR may have some v-e-r-y interesting information about what really happened at the Tower of Joy.

*I have not read the books, so please correct me if I'm wrong!
I was rewatching season 6 and in the episode you mention where Meera grabs a sword near the entrance, it looked as though there was more than one sword leaning against the wall. A few episodes earlier, when they all first arrive, some of the wights follow them into the cave holding swords/weapons etc. They disintegrate on entrance due to the magic and the swords etc. fall to the floor, so it's probably one of those swords left behind that Meera picked up. Certainly makes a lot more sense, in terms of continuity, than Dark Sister.

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