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Re: New Season 8 Plot Leaks from Freefolk

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:26 pm
by Stormborn
elybe wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:13 pm
Stormborn wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:42 pm
Flayed Potatoes wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:20 pm
Does Jon survive this series?
Probably. There's more shock factor if Daenerys dies.
This person says that their friend made no mention of Jon dying, but based on a possible “script leak” on freefolk that looks kind of legit (and actually supports some of these “drunken” details), Tyrion seems to only recognize Dany as a reigning monarch in 8x06. There’s no real indication that Jon’s dead, but D&D haven’t really left a Door #3 option for him besides dying or ruling. And there’s no way Jon wouldn’t marry a pregnant Dany. So either he’s not in the picture, abdicates (not likely), or Tyrion just doesn’t think to mention him. I try not to jump to the worst possible conclusions, but those happened to be all the ones that panned out last year, so I find it helps to prepare in advance. What doesn't really sit well with me, though, is that those "scripts" have Cersei imprisoning Jon, and based on comments D&D have made in the 7x07 commentary and some of the freefolk spec, they may not be able to resist throwing some sexual degradation into the mix. Seriously, people are actually making female-on-male rape jokes about this scenario. I mean, D&D can be as gritty as they want, but maybe less talk about "satisfying endings" and "audience payoff" if they intend to make the audience watch Jon suffer through that before he bites it for a second time.
I quite like knowing that Jon gets imprisoned. It gives an insight into part of the motivation why the others travel south and are on a chase round KL.

I havn't seen any rape jokes, that's crass and I hope not to.

Re: New Season 8 Plot Leaks from Freefolk

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:58 pm
by elybe
czechgirl wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:46 pm
Hey elybe, do you mean this part?? Tyrion: You proved yourself a capable warrior in the War For The Dawn. You helped vanquish the Night King and his armies, you single-handedly took out the Golden Company generals. The Queen does not forget your service… despite past grievances.

Maybe Tyrion mentions Dany only because of their previous encounter, aka Bronn hitting Drogon and nearly killing Dany in 704. So, despite of this, The Queen herself desides that Bronn gets a castle..... :) Let´s see if we´ll get more leaks, that confirm/deny jon´s fate.....
Yeah, that bit. Sure, he could be referring to letting bygones be bygones over the loot train battle. It was more about the way the statement leads with and singles out Dany as solely being grateful for his service. Granted, Jon may not give a fuck about who gets what castle, but the omission looks off to me. I get that there are other possible explanations, but surprisingly I actually wouldn't put it past D&D to give Jon the Ellaria/Septa Unella treatment before killing him off. I mean, these could very well be fake, but I could still see them doing it.
Stormborn wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:26 pm
I havn't seen any rape jokes, that's crass and I hope not to.
Yeah, I suspect the people making them don't really expect it to go that far and/or they expect Jon to survive. But there's some icky stuff about Cersei proxy fucking Rhaegar through Jon, while others have posted that they could get behind it if it means more Jon nudity, etc.

Edit: According to Sue, the script pages are fake. Well, either way, I've officially entertained my worst case scenario for the ending, so nowhere to go but up I guess!

Re: New Season 8 Plot Leaks from Freefolk

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:34 pm
by Stormborn
elybe wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:58 pm
czechgirl wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:46 pm


Yeah, that bit. Sure, he could be referring to letting bygones be bygones over the loot train battle. It was more about the way the statement leads with and singles out Dany as solely being grateful for his service. Granted, Jon may not give a fuck about who gets what castle, but the omission looks off to me. I get that there are other possible explanations, but surprisingly I actually wouldn't put it past D&D to give Jon the Ellaria/Septa Unella treatment before killing him off. I mean, these could very well be fake, but I could still see them doing it.
Stormborn wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:26 pm
I havn't seen any rape jokes, that's crass and I hope not to.
Yeah, I suspect the people making them don't really expect it to go that far and/or they expect Jon to survive. But there's some icky stuff about Cersei proxy fucking Rhaegar through Jon, while others have posted that they could get behind it if it means more Jon nudity, etc.

Edit: According to Sue, the script pages are fake. Well, either way, I've officially entertained my worst case scenario for the ending, so nowhere to go but up I guess!
In the case of Brienne and Tormund, D&D were adamant that there are no happy endings in Westeros and one of them must die. It seems unlikely that the same would not apply between Jon and Dany. It's just a matter of which one I guess.

Sue who? Where did you see this?

Re: New Season 8 Plot Leaks from Freefolk

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:08 pm
by elybe
Stormborn wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:34 pm

In the case of Brienne and Tormund, D&D were adamant that there are no happy endings in Westeros and one of them must die. It seems unlikely that the same would not apply between Jon and Dany. It's just a matter of which one I guess.

Sue who? Where did you see this?
Eh, I never take them seriously when they say crap like that. Besides, if Jonerys are meant to thematically be Ice & Fire, killing off only one disturbs the balance. This show's not very subtle when it comes to themes and parallels.

Sue who runs this site. She debunked them on Twitter.

Re: New Season 8 Plot Leaks from Freefolk

Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:27 pm
by Stormborn
elybe wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:08 pm

Eh, I never take them seriously when they say crap like that. Besides, if Jonerys are meant to thematically be Ice & Fire, killing off only one disturbs the balance. This show's not very subtle when it comes to themes and parallels.
Well, in that case Jon could live as he's both ice & fire.

elybe wrote:
Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:08 pm
Sue who runs this site. She debunked them on Twitter.
Thanks.

Re: New Season 8 Plot Leaks from Freefolk

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:23 am
by patrick_joseph
fucking sue gotta ruin all the fun :D . i kinda like bronn being the hero who saves the day and gets the twins. him an the hound my favs. the sansa tyrion and hound an arya will be great tv. its all great hope i stay alive till 2019.

Re: New Season 8 Plot Leaks from Freefolk

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:39 am
by patrick_joseph
last note. since all the leaks say tormund is a deadman after a battle with nk he out of the brienne love contest and it looks like jaimes gonna die so her and the hound have some big ass kids i like it. but wil they still be someones king or queens guard or do the go rule tarth good for hound. or they could adopt ayra :D

Re: New Season 8 Plot Leaks from Freefolk

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:22 am
by Stormborn
patrick_joseph wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:23 am
fucking sue gotta ruin all the fun :D . i kinda like bronn being the hero who saves the day and gets the twins. him an the hound my favs. the sansa tyrion and hound an arya will be great tv. its all great hope i stay alive till 2019.
I didn't see her comments so IdK why she thinks they aren't credible.
patrick_joseph wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:39 am
last note. since all the leaks say tormund is a deadman after a battle with nk he out of the brienne love contest and it looks like jaimes gonna die so her and the hound have some big ass kids i like it. but wil they still be someones king or queens guard or do the go rule tarth good for hound. or they could adopt ayra :D
If Sansa survives then Brienne will probably stay by her side. The Hound hasn't been Kingsguard since season 2.