The winds of winter release date

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Wimsey
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Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:43 pm

Have we gotten our annual "No, it won't be out this year" apologia yet from Martin?

Of course, expecting him to be prompt about it is a bit contradictory..... 8-)
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Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:35 am

I feel that we definitely won't get WOW until after the final season of GOT has come out, I sort of feel Martin has been holding off for this very reason.
Maybe they requested that he doesnt release them yet even though they may already be finished? As he's released 2 other books instead of WOW... The show has already said that they are doing their own adaptation of the ending but with Martin telling them the main plot points sooo... yeah, I think (hope lol) by the end of this year.

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Wimsey
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Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:27 pm

confettialready wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:35 am
I feel that we definitely won't get WOW until after the final season of GOT has come out, I sort of feel Martin has been holding off for this very reason.
Maybe they requested that he doesnt release them yet even though they may already be finished? As he's released 2 other books instead of WOW... The show has already said that they are doing their own adaptation of the ending but with Martin telling them the main plot points sooo... yeah, I think (hope lol) by the end of this year.
Quite the opposite: there were (by several accounts) people at HBO who were furious that Martin did not get the books out before the series was done. They had, after all, paid for the rights to the series: and GRRM essentially sold them a promise that he did not fulfill.

Even at this late point, the release of the penultimate book would have been a little bit of extra publicity. Sure, there would have been minor amounts of fans yelling about how much better the book is than what the show provided, but after Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings, the general public does not buy that anymore.

The "they" that must be really upset is Martin's publisher. If Winds and Dream had come out while the series was running, then the sales would have been spectacular. It would not quite have been Harry Potter: but it would have been the nearest thing that we've seen since then. Interest in the series will almost certainly wane drastically after this season, and that will be a lot of lost book sales.
"If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise, don't put it there."
A. P. Chehkov

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