My predictions for season 8 before knowing any spoilers

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Wimsey
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:03 pm

jpknitt wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:24 am
So if Tyrion IS playing the long con it doesn't count because I predicted it. :D
heh, touché! But, again: expect something just a little more parsimonious! 8-)
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Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:59 pm

Wimsey wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:59 pm
However, what Tyrion really wants is Cersei dead. He hates her more than he hates any other person alive.
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One of the major unfired guns on the series is Tyrion getting his revenge against Cersei: what we should be discussing is what Tyrion has in mind for this pleasured delayed. And that is what his pained looks almost certainly reflect: the facts that he cannot get the quick gratification that he'd hoped to get, and/or that he is going to have be duplicitous down the road after Cersei might shock everyone and actually do the right thing for once. And, let's face it: Tyrion has to be worried that Cersei is again lying.

For them to do what you want, then we would have to have seen and/or read that Tyrion actually pined for acceptance by his sister. However, that gun has not been hung in either medium. Firing it now would be the character-development equivalent of Deus ex Machina!
Book Tyrion wants revenge on Cersei. TV Tyrion has never shown any such desire, in particular since he left KL. He’s the purest good guy main character on the show, give or take Jon.

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Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:05 pm

Sean_C wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:59 pm
Book Tyrion wants revenge on Cersei. TV Tyrion has never shown any such desire, in particular since he left KL. He’s the purest good guy main character on the show, give or take Jon.
One, yes, Tyrion has expressed it, and, two, there are no "pure[st] good guys" on the show.
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:57 pm

Wimsey wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 3:05 pm
Sean_C wrote:
Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:59 pm
Book Tyrion wants revenge on Cersei. TV Tyrion has never shown any such desire, in particular since he left KL. He’s the purest good guy main character on the show, give or take Jon.
One, yes, Tyrion has expressed it, and, two, there are no "pure[st] good guys" on the show.
Identify when in recent seasons Tyrion has espoused a desire for revenge on Cersei.

And yeah, there absolutely are, and Tyrion is the number one. He's been systematically stripped of all of the darker characteristics that GRRM wrote into him. The whole of Season 7 was about him trying to make Dany queen of Westeros without killing anybody, to the point where his plans caused catastrophic losses to her own forces rather than go for the jugular. Post-Season 4 Tyrion has been on a polar opposite emotional direction compared to his book counterpart, who is all about revenge.

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