I am still not understanding the difference.Needle wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:54 pmThose who are upset aren't acting like that because the idea of a character falling from power is "unacceptable". Everyone can agree that Jaime's tough time as a prisoner only made him a better character.QueenofThrones wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:42 amIt doesn't bother me too much at this point. I am not sure why people think Sansa going "from player to victim" somehow destroys her as a character. Robb went from powerful to victim. Jon too, as did Tyrion and Cersei... Honestly most of the characters did at one time or another. The point as the Greyjoys say is "to rise again, harder and stronger".
Certainly it was frustrating and upsetting to watch - just as the red wedding and Jons assassination were frustrating to read. But the events of s6 made it worth it, for both jon and Sansa. Honestly I'm more annoyed about the somewhat artificial conflict between the two characters near the end of s6. But I can understand that as well.
What's upsetting us, is the fact that D&D began setting up a stronger Sansa, who won't let herself be manipulated and used by others. And only mere episodes later, she's back at being a powerless and abused captive.
So what was the point? What was the point of the scene where she dramatically walks down the stairs in a black dress? What was the point of setting this whole thing up?
You could just as easily say "what was the point" of Robb getting his triumphant "King in the North" moment, or capturing Jaime, if he just gets murdered later on. Or, what was the point of Tyrion getting to be hand of the king if he gets humiliated as soon as Tywin gets back to KL. What was the point of Jon being LC if he gets stabbed.
The point is characters think they finally are on top and then due to twist of fate or the actions of others they aren't. It Could have gone another way but it turns out Ramsey was a psychopath. No one in the TV series except the Boltons themselves knew this, including Sansa and Littlefinger.