I agree.ghost of winterfell wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:02 amAny thoughts?
Winterfell plot seems pretty lame.
D&D seem to want to ensure that nobody blames Dany for taking her dragons beyond the Wall. The only reason she does that is because Jon makes Gendry send a raven to her. Jon will be blamed for everyyything....
Of course, for all the people who were hoping that Jon would ride a dragon one day, they get to see him fall off a dragon..
I just can't be optimistic anymore lol.
Flayed Potatoes wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:29 amWinterfell plot is stupid and a waste of time. Dany's conquest is also a waste of time because she doesn't accomplish anything. But of course they can't have people blame Dany for everything, so they'll just dumb down Tyrion and throw him under the bus. The hilarious thing is that she was actually one of my favorite characters at the beginning, but the more D&D prop her at the expense of other characters and act like she can do no wrong, the more they make me feel annoyed with her.
D&D hate Jon. What else is new?
Of course he won't ride a dragon. Can't take that uniqueness away from Dany. No dragon, no warging, no bond with Ghost, no relationship with Arya, no acknowledgement that he is both ice and fire (though here they could just be waiting for the Targ reveal, but I'm not holding my breath). Really what is, in their eyes, Jon's purpose/endgame on the show? Wight fodder?
Of course he has to pledge naked because Jon hasn't been humiliated enough on this show. "Thank you Dany" sounds like fanfic dialogue. Why even make Jon king if they're just going to take that away from him almost immediately?
D&D are going to act like the Tarlys betray the Tyrells even though they're dead (Olenna isn't their liege) to justify Dany's actions in episode 4 or 5. When they are actually loyal to the crown and Dany isn't queen of anything in Westeros.
I'm sure the special effects will be great, but the writing on the episode will have the depth of a puddle.
Someone please convince me there is reason to be optimistic about Jon's endgame/purpose or his portrayal on the show lol.
Sorry for the rant
The more I see from the leaks, the less optimistic I become. The character assassination already started last season, Jon's character is undermined at every single turn. They are really going out of their way to bring him down this season.
It is funny how every single declaration he makes is always opposed vocally before a crowd, while nothing Cersei or Dany says is every opposed so vocally. I bet nothing that Sansa says will be opposed.
I am really starting to wish that Jon had just remained in the Nights Watch. Or better yet he should just have left for the Summer Ilse and left Westeros to its fate, that could actually have been a good eneding for his character.
At this stage Sam and the Hound are getting better character development than Jon. I don't even understand why they will go through all of the Citadel shit only for Sam to figure out Jon's true heritage. What will his heritage matter when the character is destroyed?
The plot in Winterfell is also lame, Littlefinger could have been killed ages ago. And I think they will also be screwing around with Arya's character this season as well. It has already become unexplainable how she could just change into Walder Frey. Littlefinger tricks her with that letter from Sansa, yet Arya has learned to detect lies from the faceless men. If they wanted to use some type of letter, why not that decree that makes Littlefinger the Warden of the North, from Cersei? That is straight up treason. At the end of the season Arya will go all fangirl around Sansa.
Cersei is suppose to be the mad Queen but she is winning at every turn. Last year they really set up the idea that Ramsay would fall because of his own mistakes and personality, in the end he failed because the whole army of the Vale was somehow able to teleport right through Moat Cailin.
The whole Dragonpit sequence sounds extremely useless, it sounds like they only wanted to get all of the characters together without doing much anything. It doesn't sound as if this scene is vital to the story ahead, yet it will be in the finale. Why would they even meet in the dragonpits? Why not just outside of Kings Landing on a open field or something, it doesn't make much sense.
But we'll see I think D&D might not realize that the Jon and Dany relationship will not be popular everywhere, there might be a bit of a backlash.
As things stands right now there is really nothing exciting to look forward to for season 8, we already know that the White Walkers will be defeated so there are less and less to care about as they keep on butchering characters make way for others. The White Walkers will look like a joke, it will take 2 or 3 episodes to defeat them after being such a massive threat throughout the series. They should have made the Wall come down in episode 2 of this season, and let the White Walkers at least slowly invade into Westeros.