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Re: 'Catspaw Dagger' Importance?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:22 pm
by Raeslewolhn
Tensor the Mage wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:51 pm
A possible motive could be to start a war between lion and wolf

But sending an assassin to murder Bran in his comatose state would tend away from this. If Bran awakens and says, "Jaime pushed me from the tower window," that would start such a war right there.

Maybe Varys was indeed the hand behind the Catspaw Assassin, but his intent was to keep peace in the realm. Killing Bran before he could talk would eliminate a possible source of conflict within the Seven Kingdoms.

(Note also that when Varys actually handles that dagger, he does so expertly...)
You have a good point about Bran. But what if he never awoke or didn't remember? (Which he didn't but noone knew he wouldn't). They didn't know who pushed him. Pegging an assasins on the Lannisters' secured the start of the war better.

Jack Bauer 24 wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:58 pm
Why did LF lie to Cat saying he lost it in a bet to Tyrion?
This definitely has him instigating that war. Regardless of how the assasins got there in the 1st place.

Re: 'Catspaw Dagger' Importance?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:23 pm
by Jack Bauer 24
Did LF help send the assassin though? I thought it was Cersei/Jaime so why would they have his dagger?

Re: 'Catspaw Dagger' Importance?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:25 pm
by evenwind
I'm still trying to figure out how LF got the dagger back?

Re: 'Catspaw Dagger' Importance?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:06 pm
by Jack Bauer 24
evenwind wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:25 pm
I'm still trying to figure out how LF got the dagger back?
I rewatched the scene where LF betrays Ned, and it seems like LF just takes it off Ned and puts it to his throat. I think Ned had it on his waist. Ned was distracted by the fighting happening in front of him

Re: 'Catspaw Dagger' Importance?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:27 pm
by evenwind
Jack Bauer 24 wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:06 pm

I rewatched the scene where LF betrays Ned, and it seems like LF just takes it off Ned and puts it to his throat. I think Ned had it on his waist. Ned was distracted by the fighting happening in front of him
That'd do it then. Thanks.

Given how that thing gets around and it's picture in Sam's book, I'm surprised there's not a prophecy or curse attached to it.

Re: 'Catspaw Dagger' Importance?

Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:34 pm
by Not Littlefinger
Jack Bauer 24 wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:58 pm
Why did LF lie to Cat saying he lost it in a bet to Tyrion?
To shift the blame from him to the Lannisters and, in turn, making the Starks and the Lannisters enemies.